Tell me that I’m asleep and this is some horrid LBC-inspired nightmare? That someone didn’t actually take the Murder of Crows title, from the movie? FFS…
Given how popular that movie was, I find it hard to fathom that someone releasing something into the zeitgeist of pop culture wouldn’t at least LOOK. How many authors do you think don’t Gargle their titles first? Or search for them on Amazon?
Gotta side with Jasini here — I still don’t know what movie you’re referring to, and “Murder of Crows” is a common enough phrase (and title) to be cliche.
Nathan, of all people, you? Sheesh. Starred Cuba Gooding and Tom Berenger. Sure, not a high-end, A-list (if that still exists) Big-budget film, but it was pretty popular at the turn of the millennium. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133985/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Hm. Crime thrillers aren’t a focus for my encyclopedic film knowledge, and it doesn’t look like it really set anyone on fire (I guess getting a theatrical release three days after ARMAGEDDON will do that for you).
Yes, of course, it’s a commonplace phrase. That would be one thing, but with the popularity of the movie, it just feels like…IDK. I guess I should be accustomed to “homages.” 🙂
Huh, I never heard of the movie. When I Googled, the movie was not in the top ten results. When I searched Amazon, I got ten books with the same title, none of them this one, and two from the Murder of Crows series (one of the first ten was Murder of Crows, book one of the Murder of Crows series).
War Goat
3 years ago
Never heard of the movie, but I know a group of crows is called a “murder.” If it is a spy novel, it can be a conspiracy of ravens. However, be sure to avoid a bouquet of hummingbirds. Collectively, those things can kill a human. Ornithologists often refer to them as murder darts.
I feel like there was a good concept here, buuuuuut . . .
Naaman Brown
3 years ago
When I googled “murder of crows” my first three hits were
_ PBS A Murder of Crows | Crow Facts | Nature
_ IMDb A Murder of Crows [R] 1998 Thriller/Action 1h 42m‧
_ Wikipedia “The Murder of Crows, a band ..,”
then links to the Wikipedia and Internet Movie Database pages on the 1998 movie and so on. The phrase has been use a lot as a title.
Titles cannot be copyrighted because it can be hard to come up with unique short phrases that are not similar or the same, but it is a good idea to use a title that hasn’t been overused. Searching to see if a title has been used is not hard, even I can do it.
I discovered a group of ravens was called an unkindness (they fight amongst themselves).
I checked and found
_ Unkindness of Ravens, Irish metal band
_ An Unkindness of Ravens, 1985 novel by Ruth Rendell
_ The Unkindness of Ravens, 2016 British horror film
So scratch using that title.
Tell me that I’m asleep and this is some horrid LBC-inspired nightmare? That someone didn’t actually take the Murder of Crows title, from the movie? FFS…
Murder of crows is a fairly common phrase. I wouldn’t necessarily assume that it was taken from some other title without further evidence.
Given how popular that movie was, I find it hard to fathom that someone releasing something into the zeitgeist of pop culture wouldn’t at least LOOK. How many authors do you think don’t Gargle their titles first? Or search for them on Amazon?
I never heard of that movie, and a simple search brings up dozens of books with that title.
Gotta side with Jasini here — I still don’t know what movie you’re referring to, and “Murder of Crows” is a common enough phrase (and title) to be cliche.
Nathan, of all people, you? Sheesh. Starred Cuba Gooding and Tom Berenger. Sure, not a high-end, A-list (if that still exists) Big-budget film, but it was pretty popular at the turn of the millennium. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133985/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Hm. Crime thrillers aren’t a focus for my encyclopedic film knowledge, and it doesn’t look like it really set anyone on fire (I guess getting a theatrical release three days after ARMAGEDDON will do that for you).
Haven’t heard of the movie either. It is, as Jasini says, a common phrase.
Yes, of course, it’s a commonplace phrase. That would be one thing, but with the popularity of the movie, it just feels like…IDK. I guess I should be accustomed to “homages.” 🙂
Huh, I never heard of the movie. When I Googled, the movie was not in the top ten results. When I searched Amazon, I got ten books with the same title, none of them this one, and two from the Murder of Crows series (one of the first ten was Murder of Crows, book one of the Murder of Crows series).
Never heard of the movie, but I know a group of crows is called a “murder.” If it is a spy novel, it can be a conspiracy of ravens. However, be sure to avoid a bouquet of hummingbirds. Collectively, those things can kill a human. Ornithologists often refer to them as murder darts.
I feel like there was a good concept here, buuuuuut . . .
When I googled “murder of crows” my first three hits were
_ PBS A Murder of Crows | Crow Facts | Nature
_ IMDb A Murder of Crows [R] 1998 Thriller/Action 1h 42m‧
_ Wikipedia “The Murder of Crows, a band ..,”
then links to the Wikipedia and Internet Movie Database pages on the 1998 movie and so on. The phrase has been use a lot as a title.
Titles cannot be copyrighted because it can be hard to come up with unique short phrases that are not similar or the same, but it is a good idea to use a title that hasn’t been overused. Searching to see if a title has been used is not hard, even I can do it.
I discovered a group of ravens was called an unkindness (they fight amongst themselves).
I checked and found
_ Unkindness of Ravens, Irish metal band
_ An Unkindness of Ravens, 1985 novel by Ruth Rendell
_ The Unkindness of Ravens, 2016 British horror film
So scratch using that title.